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CA Energy Schemes: ‘We are getting fleeced’

Cal Watchdog -- The California Air Resources Board has created a stealthy new corporation in Delaware. The Western Climate Initiative Inc., which will manage cap-and-trade programs, even has its own form of currency.
“CARB is creating a whole new currency with these pollution certificates,” explained Assemblywoman Diane Harkey, R-Dana Point. “Initially the state was to unite with other Western states to reduce the purported menace to the future of our planet,” Harkey said.

Harkey has been trying to get her legislative colleagues to understand that the “fix,” setting a goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels, with increasing population on the horizon, “is guaranteed to cost employers and everyday people more for the electricity and products they need. California’s only remaining partner is

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Submitted Apr 07, 2012 By: bar1035

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 3:07:35 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse hmmm add on the side offer Russian women one screen, explanation of gas prices the next screen. Wonder if the google ads don't know what "fleeced" means...
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,609 Points:1,608,545 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 11, 2012 3:11:42 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse funny that this is California's doing, not the DC administration, yet, so many folks here complain (as expected) about the administration. CA has voted itself into this.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,985 Points:2,344,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 3:26:26 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse 'We are getting fleeced' – fleecing California and the rest of the nation too. Barry's 'spending gone wild' policy is affecting everyone in the US. Higher taxes, a continuing struggling economy, too many people out of work, wasted taxpayer money spent on already failing green energy companies, there are too many items related to a bad economy. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
TerryLee Champion Author Ohio Posts:14,600 Points:2,790,150 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 10:09:36 PM Ignore TerryLee Report Abuse yes by Obama
geminijax Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:16,826 Points:2,726,700 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:42:41 PM Ignore geminijax Report Abuse The real "fix" is the CA voters realizing that perhaps they ought to elect someone apart from the Pelosis, Boxers, etc.
NemoIL Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,020 Points:1,312,245 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:42:04 PM Ignore NemoIL Report Abuse California is a failed socialist state.
chuckwthompson Champion Author Charlotte Posts:3,750 Points:576,210 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:40:38 PM Ignore chuckwthompson Report Abuse Hate it for those who live in CA!
Ebaz Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,241 Points:714,335 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:38:57 PM Ignore Ebaz Report Abuse Can it get worse in Cali?
HA4CNN Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,619 Points:1,542,415 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:37:52 PM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse Scam.
unicornpmb Champion Author Buffalo Posts:8,486 Points:1,628,540 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:36:04 PM Ignore unicornpmb Report Abuse Sorry.
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,343 Points:1,538,780 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:35:48 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse I tink I've heard of dis California place.....dey hat fleece for yo $@@...aaand utter free guddiezzz.
kgbellman Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:2,703 Points:730,640 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:32:43 PM Ignore kgbellman Report Abuse Interesting the lengths they go to
scrossi Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,879 Points:1,047,515 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:32:13 PM Ignore scrossi Report Abuse Right tedjm1.
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:31:10 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse California is such a stupid state because of all their stupid politicians except(ARNOLD SCHWARTZENNEGER).
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,771 Points:1,554,160 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:30:43 PM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse Too bad for CA's political and economic future that there are too many politicians on the opposite end of the spectrum that are flushing CA out to sea, polluting the Pacific.
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,257 Points:1,740,730 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:30:30 PM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse Another government program destine to waist money and fail.
GasholeMI Champion Author Lansing Posts:10,134 Points:1,717,315 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:26:03 PM Ignore GasholeMI Report Abuse CA is heading for bankruptcy.
jtfftj Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,176 Points:1,247,305 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:25:52 PM Ignore jtfftj Report Abuse That's what you get when the population thinks that Jerry Brown has the answers to be governor.
Matt G Champion Author Boston Posts:4,528 Points:2,772,065 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:25:08 PM Ignore Matt G Report Abuse Ok
DandyDapple All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:715 Points:309,320 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:25:05 PM Ignore DandyDapple Report Abuse CARB is a JOKE! ... OMG 2012!!!
Geo4564 Champion Author Nevada Posts:6,912 Points:1,567,870 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:22:55 PM Ignore Geo4564 Report Abuse Great story!
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:21:56 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse 'Green' is costly. But if we do not head that way, we could poison our planet.
NotmeuQc Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,651 Points:1,133,050 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:21:38 PM Ignore NotmeuQc Report Abuse I'm just glad I don't live in CA, but its a nice place to visit.
MINIWINI598 Champion Author Washington Posts:3,012 Points:517,725 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:20:54 PM Ignore MINIWINI598 Report Abuse ok
Lou08 Champion Author California Posts:1,084 Points:252,410 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:19:45 PM Ignore Lou08 Report Abuse "CARB" kill this agency in California. lala-lala land. A Blue State (D) Loaded with (PC)that want "Cap and Trade"!!! [Edited by: Lou08 at 4/8/2012 12:23:53 AM EST]
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,074 Points:1,100,930 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:19:13 PM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse The EU has been doing this for some time now. We should follow.
Badmoon Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:8,303 Points:1,650,515 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:19:12 PM Ignore Badmoon Report Abuse Green is expensive.
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,117 Points:575,140 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:18:58 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse california is learning now that the nation no longer follows what california is doing. because california's values are not the nations values along with many many other things they have done in the past.:)
thuathienhue Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,443 Points:631,615 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:18:58 PM Ignore thuathienhue Report Abuse OH, remember to vote before it is to late.
lowpet All-Star Author Texas Posts:527 Points:86,915 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:18:34 PM Ignore lowpet Report Abuse CA emissions suck
MRED3 Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:4,005 Points:930,050 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:17:33 PM Ignore MRED3 Report Abuse Really !
96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:17:09 PM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse It's like printing money, and it should be outlawed.
Barfood Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,296 Points:1,016,705 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:16:52 PM Ignore Barfood Report Abuse Bummer to drive anything in Calif.
VetteFan Champion Author Indiana Posts:9,734 Points:2,027,505 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:15:00 PM Ignore VetteFan Report Abuse The nation will follow suit, just like always.
Beboper Champion Author Virginia Posts:8,722 Points:2,162,815 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:14:38 PM Ignore Beboper Report Abuse glade I don't live there
preacherjohn Champion Author Modesto Posts:3,982 Points:1,917,850 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:14:19 PM Ignore preacherjohn Report Abuse You don't have WA & OR have such restrictions on all their vehicles.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,565 Points:2,444,160 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:14:11 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse what would you expect with "MOONBEAM" as governor ??
Bagtag Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,449 Points:1,827,215 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:13:15 PM Ignore Bagtag Report Abuse Wow...Cali really is outta control!
Rooster922 Champion Author Wilmington Posts:3,783 Points:655,095 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:13:11 PM Ignore Rooster922 Report Abuse We run out of choice here.
Number43 Champion Author Lexington Posts:8,692 Points:1,637,195 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:12:06 PM Ignore Number43 Report Abuse We are always getting robbed. So what else is new?
dancygreen Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,058 Points:483,910 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:11:44 PM Ignore dancygreen Report Abuse really?
METEOR49 Champion Author Ontario Posts:2,167 Points:454,250 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:11:34 PM Ignore METEOR49 Report Abuse tree huggers a menace to society !!!!!!!
Rooster922 Champion Author Wilmington Posts:3,783 Points:655,095 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:10:06 PM Ignore Rooster922 Report Abuse I'll stay in the East Coast
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,294 Points:1,641,830 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:10:04 PM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse Really........
ron98146 Champion Author Seattle Posts:1,579 Points:964,105 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:09:34 PM Ignore ron98146 Report Abuse and our wallets continue to bleed.
KnoxGasPriceSpy Champion Author Knoxville Posts:140,847 Points:918,845 Joined:Oct 2010	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:08:39 PM Ignore KnoxGasPriceSpy Report Abuse not much hope for California...
timbyus1 Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,959 Points:390,555 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:08:04 PM Ignore timbyus1 Report Abuse read
jem069 Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,533 Points:686,105 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:07:55 PM Ignore jem069 Report Abuse Ok
yakstar Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,415 Points:478,670 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:07:39 PM Ignore yakstar Report Abuse life is a scam...
Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,515 Points:1,668,610 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:07:05 PM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse Sound like ripoff.